Based on Adept and Member suggestions, we - the Mod staff - are planning a change to the site's DTB philosophy. Barring any massive upheaval or vehement disagreements, this change will be implemented for the November 1st update.
Found below are the changes briefly summarized. I will be updating the relevant posts in the DTBF about the qualifications for DTBs, DTWs, and ATWs.
1. 33+ players and 6 rounds for a tourney to qualify for inclusion (already implemented for the Oct. update)
2. Remove the "American Clause." All Non-American tournies and T8s will count as much as American ones.
3. DTB = 5 placements out of last 10 tournaments.
4. DTW = 3 placements out of last 10 tournaments.
5. ATW = 3 placements out of last 10 tournaments.
This method is a bit of a trial. We'd like to bill this as an experiment to make the DTBF as relevant as possible for all Legacy players. These changes allow a larger sample size (10 tournies instead or 6) and allow American and non-American tournies to influence the DTBF equally.
So... any last comments or concerns?
Originally Posted by Cavius The Great
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Nice.
I'm pretty sure that we can take LFTL-based decks out of the LMF, and that, should we do the math, Thresh won't be a deck to beat. Maybe I'm wrong - I know that there wasn't one in the EPIC DLD (read: I'm pretty sure...), and Europe seems more prone to weird UWb agro-control.
The E.P.I.C. Syndicate: I mean, if they play a lullaby for babies they should at least play the Monster Mash when somebody dies.
Nope, your math is off. There were 4x Thresh. deck at an Italian tournament, 2 more at a Japanese one as well as a bunch more in several other tournies.
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Who among the mods and adepts wants credit for this?
I'll take credit for it, if and only if, it turns out to be a good idea.
Otherwise, I had nothing to do with it.
Not that I actually had anything to with it in the first place.
You're a genius. There, are you happy now? Congratulations, you egotist, you've gotten the credit you think is so goddamn important.
Satisfying your narcissism is obviously more important than accurate representation of the metagame.
Edit - Warning for Flames. ~ Nightmare.
Actually, I was really wondering who has taken on the idea of global Legacy all of a sudden, since the idea was not well-received.
I am concerned about getting credit for my ideas. If I were actually involved in the "representation of the metagame" at this site, I would care about it. Otherwise what incentive do I have?
Wait did Nightmare just give HIMSELF a warning? Im confused...
This whole change sounds like the same as the old system but w/o the American bias, well see how it turns out Im guessing itll be even less accurate than the current/old system, love to be shown wrong though.
YES! Yet another chance to quote myself!
Here, again, is a problem with how you say things. What do you mean by "all of a sudden." Not well received? I thought we had an interesting debate about it.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you implying that the changes to the DTBF were your ideas and you are not being properly credited? If so, I'd like to direct you to this post, this post, and this post which specifically mention issues with the old method of devaluing non-American tournies.
If not, then I apologize for wasting your time asking you to click those links.
@ ObFree: Could you eloborate as to how the DTBF will be less usefull for its stated purpose now?
@ lack of West Coast data: Put simply, we would be happy to include the SD tournies if they provided deck lists of the T8s. Lists are required for a T8's inclusion in the DTBF.
warning himself = siged...
Lego Army Man, I think that the result of any one tournament isn't likely to skew the results for very long. Since we have a monthly update, under the current system a deck would have to put 5 decks into the T8 of one tournament to be a DTB without any support from other tournaments. I think anything that severe probably deserves to be labeled as a DTB for at least a month to see if those results hold up. If they don't, its a blimp on the radar, but if they hold up then its good thing we started tracking its results early.
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