Noctalor
08-27-2015, 09:31 AM
So, Ace/Homebrew asked me to open a post about this deck, lets do this.
The deck should be considered as a control/combo, our gameplan is to get in control using our planeswalkers, or to go ham with doubling season.
For those who are not familiar with the enchantment this is how the card interact with our deck:
1) First of all, if we have 1 season se get x2 counters, if we have 2 we get x4 counters, if we have 3 we get x8 counters and if we have 4 we get x16 counters
2) Playing a Planeswalker will trigger the season, so if you play a 4 loyalty pw it will come in play with 8 counters
3) You get no bonus if you go for a +X loyalty ability, because putting counters is not an effect, but a cost
So, how do we exploit the card?
We are locking for PW able to come in play and insta-ult if their loyalty is doubled, the "OMG THIS GUY DECK IS CRAZY" card is in fact this guy
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/rtr/44.jpg
If we have the setup we can chain 4 jaces into 4 cards from our opponent deck into a card from our deck, this is insane ofc and most decks get completely rekt by this combo, given that we can easily end the chain with a 14 counter Ugin :wink:
So atm our list looks like
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
the next step should be to find a way to not get smashed while we get this togheter, the best way (i found) in modern is to play Fog, fog is great here because it can "timewalk" if needed but most important it will save our planeswalker, also we get the cool prop that a lot of modern decks get SMASHED by fog, for example having 2 fog vs infect is cool, most decks will in the end be affected by the fog, you will likely gain at least 7/8 life per fog.
Given how good the card was i decided to play the list in a bant shell, because fk this we play holy day also.
This ofc will in the end be a pain vs non aggressive decks, but hey this format sucks so yuo will play vs a good 80% aggro, also we are in a tier2 position, so we have to take risks to have a good shot.
So now we have
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Fog
4 Holy Day
Given that we are bant we can now look for some cool PW to put in the list, i decided for:
- Ugin, we can pretty much cast this guy most of the times, if we have a season is bonkers, also a big dude is good to have for the chain combo
- Narset, pretty good vs unfar decks, we can lock them out with a season, also is really good that the loialty is so high
- Tamiyo, most decks will attack with all they have into a fog, add tamiyo and here you have a draw 6, cool, also most deck concede to tamiyo ult into fog (LMAO)
- Garruk Wildspeaker, this guy is needed here, his ability to ramp is actually insanely good because he let you go for example t3 garruck into t4 season with fog/remand up into combo with counter up, pretty good, also the beasts are ok for stalling and can become a wincon with season in play given how fast you can ramp 3/3 into his ulti.
Given how we crave for mana add to the mix sakura tribe elder, serum visions and remand, and why not some supreme verdict?
so now we have
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Narset Transcendent
1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
4 Fog
4 Holy Day
4 Serum Visions
4 Remand
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Supreme Verdict
Now all we have left is the manabase, we play a pretty beefy one
4 Simic Growth Chamber
Yup, this is good here working with 4 garruk, also in the early game we dont have much to do
2 Temple of Mystery
1 Temple of Plenty
1 Temple of Enlightenment
Again we can afford to play those, and deck manipulation is pretty good here
4 Misty rainforest
2 Flooded Strand
1 Breeding Pool
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Plains
2 Forest
3 Island
Here we go, this is our final decklist
4 Misty rainforest
2 Flooded Strand
1 Breeding Pool
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Plains
2 Forest
3 Island
2 Temple of Mystery
1 Temple of Plenty
1 Temple of Enlightenment
4 Simic Growth Chamber
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Narset Transcendent
1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
4 Fog
4 Holy Day
4 Serum Visions
4 Remand
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Supreme Verdict
So lets talk a bit about our MU
We have a pretty good MU agains any form of aggro, for example affinity is a joke for this deck, our 8 fogs are doing work.
We struggle a big against single threat aggro control decks, for example a land delver into bad things is pretty bad because we are going to fog into little damage and we struggle to deal with tax counters and snapcasters.
Not cool against some combo, pretty much a bye against some others.
So what do we put in our sideboard?
This is mine atm:
3 Nature's Claim
Good vs twin, good vs tron, those are the main focus, ofc is a great tool against a good number of decks
2 Repeal
Works well here, being able to bounce a delver is really helpfull and we have plenty of targets, against the mono threat decks this card is amazing
3 Ratchet Bomb
This is cool against a lot of decks and help if we decide to go full control because the combo is not the best
2 Relic of progenitus
General stuff, we hate grave because fk grave
3 Dispel
This card is THE BEST here, its so good in countermagic mu, please play this one
2 Spell Pierce
Again general stuff, pls no thoughtseize
Hope it helps, see ya
The deck should be considered as a control/combo, our gameplan is to get in control using our planeswalkers, or to go ham with doubling season.
For those who are not familiar with the enchantment this is how the card interact with our deck:
1) First of all, if we have 1 season se get x2 counters, if we have 2 we get x4 counters, if we have 3 we get x8 counters and if we have 4 we get x16 counters
2) Playing a Planeswalker will trigger the season, so if you play a 4 loyalty pw it will come in play with 8 counters
3) You get no bonus if you go for a +X loyalty ability, because putting counters is not an effect, but a cost
So, how do we exploit the card?
We are locking for PW able to come in play and insta-ult if their loyalty is doubled, the "OMG THIS GUY DECK IS CRAZY" card is in fact this guy
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/rtr/44.jpg
If we have the setup we can chain 4 jaces into 4 cards from our opponent deck into a card from our deck, this is insane ofc and most decks get completely rekt by this combo, given that we can easily end the chain with a 14 counter Ugin :wink:
So atm our list looks like
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
the next step should be to find a way to not get smashed while we get this togheter, the best way (i found) in modern is to play Fog, fog is great here because it can "timewalk" if needed but most important it will save our planeswalker, also we get the cool prop that a lot of modern decks get SMASHED by fog, for example having 2 fog vs infect is cool, most decks will in the end be affected by the fog, you will likely gain at least 7/8 life per fog.
Given how good the card was i decided to play the list in a bant shell, because fk this we play holy day also.
This ofc will in the end be a pain vs non aggressive decks, but hey this format sucks so yuo will play vs a good 80% aggro, also we are in a tier2 position, so we have to take risks to have a good shot.
So now we have
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Fog
4 Holy Day
Given that we are bant we can now look for some cool PW to put in the list, i decided for:
- Ugin, we can pretty much cast this guy most of the times, if we have a season is bonkers, also a big dude is good to have for the chain combo
- Narset, pretty good vs unfar decks, we can lock them out with a season, also is really good that the loialty is so high
- Tamiyo, most decks will attack with all they have into a fog, add tamiyo and here you have a draw 6, cool, also most deck concede to tamiyo ult into fog (LMAO)
- Garruk Wildspeaker, this guy is needed here, his ability to ramp is actually insanely good because he let you go for example t3 garruck into t4 season with fog/remand up into combo with counter up, pretty good, also the beasts are ok for stalling and can become a wincon with season in play given how fast you can ramp 3/3 into his ulti.
Given how we crave for mana add to the mix sakura tribe elder, serum visions and remand, and why not some supreme verdict?
so now we have
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Narset Transcendent
1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
4 Fog
4 Holy Day
4 Serum Visions
4 Remand
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Supreme Verdict
Now all we have left is the manabase, we play a pretty beefy one
4 Simic Growth Chamber
Yup, this is good here working with 4 garruk, also in the early game we dont have much to do
2 Temple of Mystery
1 Temple of Plenty
1 Temple of Enlightenment
Again we can afford to play those, and deck manipulation is pretty good here
4 Misty rainforest
2 Flooded Strand
1 Breeding Pool
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Plains
2 Forest
3 Island
Here we go, this is our final decklist
4 Misty rainforest
2 Flooded Strand
1 Breeding Pool
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Temple Garden
1 Plains
2 Forest
3 Island
2 Temple of Mystery
1 Temple of Plenty
1 Temple of Enlightenment
4 Simic Growth Chamber
4 Doubling Season
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Narset Transcendent
1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
4 Fog
4 Holy Day
4 Serum Visions
4 Remand
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Supreme Verdict
So lets talk a bit about our MU
We have a pretty good MU agains any form of aggro, for example affinity is a joke for this deck, our 8 fogs are doing work.
We struggle a big against single threat aggro control decks, for example a land delver into bad things is pretty bad because we are going to fog into little damage and we struggle to deal with tax counters and snapcasters.
Not cool against some combo, pretty much a bye against some others.
So what do we put in our sideboard?
This is mine atm:
3 Nature's Claim
Good vs twin, good vs tron, those are the main focus, ofc is a great tool against a good number of decks
2 Repeal
Works well here, being able to bounce a delver is really helpfull and we have plenty of targets, against the mono threat decks this card is amazing
3 Ratchet Bomb
This is cool against a lot of decks and help if we decide to go full control because the combo is not the best
2 Relic of progenitus
General stuff, we hate grave because fk grave
3 Dispel
This card is THE BEST here, its so good in countermagic mu, please play this one
2 Spell Pierce
Again general stuff, pls no thoughtseize
Hope it helps, see ya