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Darkenslight
04-22-2011, 10:09 AM
Nix is a blue counterspell with a twist: it only counters cards that had no mana paid to cast them. So, why should it be discussed right now?

Well, there are a few cards from the uipcoming New Phyrexia set that can cost no mana to cast: Mental Misstep and Surgical Extraction. One of these is a direct foil to Nix, and the other is an Extract effect. So, what is the potential for Nix to become a sideboard card in, say, a Combo-heavy meta (Belcher, ANT et al)? What about a midrange meta?

Thoughts are always appreciated.

DownSyndromeKarl
04-22-2011, 10:16 AM
the tag is "cards", not "card"

but I don't think Nix will see play, as everyone is saying; the best way to stop Mental Misstep, is with Mental Misstep. People don't use it to stop FoW, they're not going to start now. At least that's my opinion.

Aggro_zombies
04-22-2011, 10:22 AM
The card is clearly terrible and unplayable because it gets countered by the 4 Mental Missteps every deck will run.

(nameless one)
04-22-2011, 01:33 PM
If there's any consolation to this card, Nix can also counter Force of Wills

lordofthepit
04-22-2011, 01:41 PM
Does paying 2 life for Mental Misstep count as "spending mana"? Intuitively, one would think no, but Phyrexian mana costs haven't been defined yet in the comprehensive rules as far as I know.

DownSyndromeKarl
04-22-2011, 02:19 PM
"Phyrexian Mana" gives you a choice, pay mana or pay life. If you pay life, you are not paying mana.

TheInfamousBearAssassin
04-22-2011, 02:21 PM
I think it's less likely that the format will devolve into a stew of niche counter-on-nich counter action than people will just play more varied threats.

Dark Ritual
04-22-2011, 04:52 PM
The card is certainly very interesting. A list of cards it counters:

Force of Will
Mental misstep (conditionally and yes people will pay mana for this card sometimes)
Lion's Eye Diamond (big plus to me; it's almost the same as spell snaring infernal tutor since LED is busted)
Moxen
Lotus Petal
Daze J/K
Land Grant
Tallmen
Misdirection
Unmask
Any pitch card


Although the card might be too narrow; it hasn't seen that much play and spell pierce is almost always the same card if not better because it has applications against vial, CB, top, brainstorm, natural order, etc. etc.

GGoober
04-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Or you can interpret this thread as a 'troll' response to people screaming "YOU NEED TO PLAY MISSTEP TO COUNTER OPPOSING MISSTEPS" because you can use Nix to counter opposing Missteps AND FoW and a bunch of stuff :P

On srz note: I think Dredge was discussing this card in their sideboards at one point (against FoW and Crypt etc)

TsumiBand
04-23-2011, 12:36 AM
Depending on how Phyrexian mana ends up working in the Comp. Rules, and further depending on how much the meta shifts to accommodate all the stuff that may in fact potentially be free to cast, Nix could be at least as playable as Spell Snare.

In the first game; then people just start playing around it by actually paying mana for the Phyrexian spells in their deck. Whoooops.

Zamussels
04-23-2011, 12:42 AM
I didn't know Nix (http://www.nixlice.com/) was a card... O.o

lorddotm
04-23-2011, 12:51 AM
Please tell me this thread is a joke. Nix is fucking terrible. If you can't deduce why... Scratch and sniffs work 10 times better at the bottom of a pool.

NesretepNoj
04-23-2011, 02:33 AM
On srz note: I think Dredge was discussing this card in their sideboards at one point (against FoW and Crypt etc)

I once actually played againt a Dredge-player who boarded them in. He quickly scooped to my Leylines though.

Darkenslight
04-23-2011, 03:06 AM
Please tell me this thread is a joke. Nix is fucking terrible. If you can't deduce why... Scratch and sniffs work 10 times better at the bottom of a pool.

Hey, I was working off the premise that there seems to be a number of really strong ACC cards in Legacy, and was womndering about Nix's potential in a meta filled with such cards. Consdier it a musing on its applications.

lorddotm
04-23-2011, 03:08 AM
Hey, I was working off the premise that there seems to be a number of really strong ACC cards in Legacy, and was womndering about Nix's potential in a meta filled with such cards. Consdier it a musing on its applications.

There are no applications. You are spending U and a card for their 2 life and a card, not much a of bargain, also if they ever hardcast it and you have this in your hand, you will want to kill yourself with a spoon.

death
04-23-2011, 11:35 AM
Reading this thread makes me wanna kill myself. This card will never be good not even in Ichorid or against ANT/Belcher or anything. This is probably the worst counter ever, worse than Memory Lapse and Cancel. There's also Engineered Explosives and Chalices if you want to answer 0cc permanents all day.

First there was [SCD]Memory Jar, [SCD]Windfall, now this. There is only so much I can bear, when will this stop.

dahcmai
04-23-2011, 01:27 PM
But Nix fights Pitch World like no one's business!










I'm not being serious. I figured I should add that.

perm
04-23-2011, 09:30 PM
Nix is a really bad card. Not much else to say, tbh its mana cost should be free and require a blue card to be revealed from hand or something. Would you actually use SB space for this worthless thing?

the Thin White Duke
04-23-2011, 09:53 PM
OMFG Nix is teh top secret tech!
Just bought out Starcity's entire stock.
I'll be laughing all the way to the bank, bitches! HAHAHAHA!!

Bardo
04-23-2011, 09:56 PM
This thread has run its course.