Official Cockatrice thread

[Gheizen64]

More than a "new" MWS, it's intended as a successor of it since it still lacks some fundamental function and basically no one play on it. But it has a lot of nice perks:

- works nicely on a mac, no parallels or things
- auto-download of cards picture, no more 100000 imports
- you can copy a deck to the deckbuilder with a simple copy-paste
- you can test alone with two differents deck one against another
- it's much clearer to see and don't crash as often as MWS
- before a game you'll see your whole deck on a "virtual" table, similarly to MtGO
- it's updated regularly on cockatrice.de

The problems? There are no players on it and it has an awkward interface when you play, cards will get piled in strange ways and your hand it's vertical by default (but you can set it horizontal).
I'm using it mainly because it work good on mac (lol at MWS crashes) and i can test two decks a particular matchup with no need of a mate over internet.

Program can be found here (https://cockatrice.github.io)

Hope this get some positive reviews, i've been positively impressed by it.

[Nihil Credo]

Tried it just now. Some very nice features, such as on-the-fly card picture download and (in theory) multiplayer support. But it's still nowhere near ready for regular use: for example, it crashed every time I drew an arrow and I could not manage to start an actual multiplayer game (the "ready to start" button would stop working). Once that is fixed, it'll need some more basic polish, such as dynamic card picture resizing - they're nearly unreadable on a 1920x1080 screen.

If these issues are solved, I can see it becoming a contender. But I wouldn't go around spreading it too much until it's ready to take on the network effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect) of MWS, or its reputation will be perma-ruined.

[Shimster]

I'm using Cockatrice since its beginning and can highly suggest it. The developers are pretty ambitious at implementing new features or fixing bugs.

@ network effect: Just perma ban Spanish and Italian IPs. Simple but effective. :)

[mbruker]

Hi. I'm the primary author of the program. Thanks for your interest :)
I apologize for the stability issues. Things were stable before the release of the latest version, I suppose the new features could've been tested more thoroughly before releasing. I'm probably going to make a fixed release this weekend or next week.

your hand it's vertical by default (but you can set it horizontal).
The hand is vertical by default because it's just better that way. It may take a bit of time getting used to it, but it actually saves a lot of space on the screen. The horizontal option was included for all the haters :) If all of you think it should be horizontal by default, it can be done, I don't really care.

it has an awkward interface when you play, cards will get piled in strange ways
Would you please elaborate on that? I don't understand what you mean :) You know, pretty much everything can be fixed.

dynamic card picture resizing - they're nearly unreadable on a 1920x1080 screen
Card pictures are always re-rendered when you change their size, so the quality is already the highest possible. If you're using the auto-downloaded ones, it's because of them being blurry in the first place (check Gatherer, that's where the pictures come from). A higher quality can be achieved by using MWS-like HQ scans.
On a side note, you're not supposed to be able to read the text of the cards lying on the table. This is just not possible with current monitor resolutions. For this, you have the big picture displayed on the right (and the oracle text box below it).

[bakofried]

I can't get it to work, though I am a n00b. It "Cockatrice - Disconnected" and will proceed to show me a blank page. Figured everyone here could help since they got it working, and the creator of the program himself is here.

[sam.]

I had that problem too until I tried exploring.

Once you download it, launch "Oracle". Go to the file menu and click "download (something or another)".
Then you can download the sets.

After that's done, you can launch Cockatrice, and it'll ask for some file paths. You make decks go to "Decks" and pictures go to "Pics" and make card set to go "cardset.xml" or something like that, which is a newly created file after Oracle is finished.

Then using the file menu at the "Cockatrice - Disconnected" screen, you can create new decks and start modes such as local and connected.

I hope that helps!

Btw, mbruker, this program is fantastic. I'm on a Mac and to me this runs just like MWS. (I'll be joining your forums to let you know of bugs on the Mac version as I come across them). It's just so great that I don't have to sleeve up proxies of decks anymore and play against other proxied decks.

I haven't tried this yet, but is it possible for someone on the Mac version to connect to someone on the Windows version?

Thanks for making this.

[TeKo]

I haven't tried this yet, but is it possible for someone on the Mac version to connect to someone on the Windows version?

Yes

[wolfstorm]

Played a couple games tonight was fun, couldn't find a way to discard randomly :( but I like it better than mws already

[Infinitium]

Implemented chat channels? Spectators? That puts this head and shoulder above MWS already. Haven't managed to secure a game yet, but I like the functionality of it.

[Killing Joke]

Does it handle priority, responses, and phases like MWS where its jsut kind of random and up to the players?

[Humphrey]

good start so far, but it needs all the functionality that mws has to become the new standard. for example interface look, card name in readable letters etc
and it needs a shuffle engine that is better than the broken shit on mws.

[Zork]

So I tried to register for the cockatrice forums but apparently registration is closed temporarily. I will therefore post my bug here:

I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with qt 4.5.2 (devtools included).

I downloaded the source from the git, then ran this in the shell:

(from ~/cockatrice/cockatrice$)

lrelease cockatrice.pro
qmake
make

And make failed at build/handcounter.o on a QPixmap call...
Any advice? I'll try this on another linux box I have sitting around.

[Dia_Bot]

It's a good program but I found some things missing (or perhaps I just didn't find them) like for instance letting a player discard a random card from its hand or the hotkey for giving a creature +1+1; +0/+1 ; +1/+0.

[markbris]

Played around on the solo mode and it was pretty cool. Def better than MWS. Like others said, it needs a discard at random btn. Seems great though if everything gets functional with playing other players online I would def play on it alot.

[dahcmai]

@ network effect: Just perma ban Spanish and Italian IPs. Simple but effective. :)



Poor Spanish and Italians, they get shafted by ebay and now this.

[Gocho]

So I tried to register for the cockatrice forums but apparently registration is closed temporarily. I will therefore post my bug here:

I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with qt 4.5.2 (devtools included).

I downloaded the source from the git, then ran this in the shell:

(from ~/cockatrice/cockatrice$)

lrelease cockatrice.pro
qmake
make

And make failed at build/handcounter.o on a QPixmap call...
Any advice? I'll try this on another linux box I have sitting around.

Seems that you miss some QT dev libraries. Is working for me in Debian.
It's great how the program autodownload the pics :)

[mbruker]

Why does this board invalidate one's session so fast? I had typed up a response, and now I have to rewrite everything.
Anyway, thanks for the input.


the "ready to start" button would stop working
The button only works when you have a deck loaded. Other than that, I can't think of any reason for it to not work.


Does it handle priority, responses, and phases like MWS where its jsut kind of random and up to the players?
Yes. I have some ideas on how to deal with jerks though. For example, one could open a game than could only be joined by registered players, so any infractions could be saved in people's profiles, or something like that. We need to find a solution that will not be considered annoying/intrusive while avoiding the "n00b -- system: player lost" problem known from MWS.


registration is closed temporarily.
It's not actually closed, it just has to be done on the main website. Accounts registered there are automatically synchronized with the message board. Registering gives you the advantage that your user name can't be used by other people since it's password protected. You can also save your decks on the server and do other things that wouldn't be possible otherwise.



make failed at build/handcounter.o on a QPixmap call...Seems that you miss some QT dev libraries.
The actual reason is that I haven't been testing with Qt 4.5 lately, and they apparently have changed a function call between 4.5 and 4.6. I've made a Qt version check there, so please test the latest git version.


it needs a discard at random btn
I wasn't aware that this is such an important thing to have. No problem implementing it though. Maybe this evening... :)

[Infinitium]

Whether I try to cease watching a game the program ctd's. I run Window's Vista and have no issues otherwise. Excellent program, albeit the interface is plenty unpolished still.

[mbruker]

Whether I try to cease watching a game the program ctd's.
Thanks. Fixed.

[mossivo1986]

Thanks. Fixed.

As far as the shuffler is concerned, does it work better then MWS's?
Also I need a link for this program etc.

[leander?]

As previously explained somewhere else on these boards, the MWS shuffler works "bad" becouse it's actually random. As opposed to real life shuffling, which is influenced a a lot by shuffling techniques. So I'm not exaclty sure what you'd want to have fixed about that, really.

[caiomarcos]

I really liked it!

One thing thou, can I choose what image it displays for certain cards? I'd like to play with my Mirage Forests, ya know, not Zendikar ones. Anyway, just a small detail that would make it feel more confy. :D

Other than that, no complains yet.

[Meekrab]

As previously explained somewhere else on these boards, the MWS shuffler works "bad" becouse it's actually random. As opposed to real life shuffling, which is influenced a a lot by shuffling techniques. So I'm not exaclty sure what you'd want to have fixed about that, really.
MWS could implement a shuffling algorithm that actually simulates shuffling as opposed to moving cards to random spots. Or people could just learn to shuffle their damn decks more and get over it.

[Zork]

[...snip]
The actual reason is that I haven't been testing with Qt 4.5 lately, and they apparently have changed a function call between 4.5 and 4.6. I've made a Qt version check there, so please test the latest git version.


I wasn't aware that this is such an important thing to have. No problem implementing it though. Maybe this evening... :)

Thanks; it is working now. I can test it on an Arch system as well later.

[jamis]

Downloaded it. So far haven't been able to get anyone to join a game, though.

edit: managed to get in a game against Merfolk. really nice program, I'll be using it more often. Oh, and allowing spectators is awesome.

[Forbiddian]

Tried it just now. Some very nice features, such as on-the-fly card picture download and (in theory) multiplayer support. But it's still nowhere near ready for regular use: for example, it crashed every time I drew an arrow and I could not manage to start an actual multiplayer game (the "ready to start" button would stop working). Once that is fixed, it'll need some more basic polish, such as dynamic card picture resizing - they're nearly unreadable on a 1920x1080 screen.

If these issues are solved, I can see it becoming a contender. But I wouldn't go around spreading it too much until it's ready to take on the network effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect) of MWS, or its reputation will be perma-ruined.

LOL! I read "network effect" and then reflexively opened up wikipedia only to discover that I could just click the link.

Your source for new vocabulary.

[Tinefol]

If there's going to be new MWS, its probably OPT, which is nearing its 1.0 release, and is being developed for 3 years.

[TeKo]

Do you have a link?
Never heard of OPT.

[rogue.nine]

Things I would like:

- Doing something about how unreadable cards are when using a smaller monitor...having to hover over every card in your hand to figure out what they are through the oracle text is a pain...same with stuff on a cluttered battle field. Even an option to scale up the card display area + cards might be ok.

-Some function for die rolls/coin flips for the cards which require them and to determine who goes first...unless there is one and i missed it ;P

-Way to change who controls something plus putting it on their side of the field. for stuff like gilded drake

-List of Hotkeys, accessible in game

-A hotkey for advancing to the next phase/step

Minor Tweaks:
-Card manipulation options to indicate when you discard cards from your hand, sacrifice permanents etc. instead of just "move to graveyard" to create a clearer game record/ avoid ambiguities.

That's all i can think of after messing around with program for a just a little bit. I like the effort overall though and my bad if the functionality i asked for exists and I was just to dumb to figure out how to make it work.

Thanks :)

[Tinefol]

Do you have a link?
Never heard of OPT.

http://www.onlineplaytable.com/

[Gocho]

OPT only works in Windows, doesn't have any docs, and it's closed source. Maybe some people don't care about it, but is a must one for me.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Imho OPT sucks cuz it is to slow. You have to wait 1/4 sec for every action you take. This sounds not much, but it simply doesnt feel smooth. OPT is just to clunky!

[mbruker]

Quoted from the Cockatrice website.


A new release is ready on the download page. This one mostly addresses bugs regarding stability. A full list of users on the server has been included, as well as direct chat.
Have fun.

[abraxas]

Capabilities missing in Cockatrice that I noticed when playing a few games this afternoon:

-Using Jace, The Mind Sculptor's first ability. It's hard to fateseal someone unless they exile the top card (letting them see the card when they aren't supposed to) and then you decide if they put it on bottom or on top.

-Using cards like Extirpate. It's hard for a player to search through their opponent's library. All the opponent can do is remove the cards themselves. Same goes with searching the player's hand, without them presenting it forward on the table - card by card. We mustn't forget that these cards are supposed to let you look at the contents of the opponent's library too.

Also, when you put cards on top of your library from your hand -- does it show the cards to your opponent? Because in the chat window it shows the card when I do it, yet it doesn't show the name of cards when my opponent does it. I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly, so more information on that would be much appreciated.

I can post more when I discover it. Two separate buttons - one for addition, the other for subtraction - would make controlling your life total much better. Using the menu or clicking the life total and then using two fingers up or down on my Macbook track pad is kind of awkward, imo.

I like it better than Workstation because it doesn't crash. Workstation crashed everytime I messed around it on my desktop PC (with good specs, etc even). Cockatrice works perfect and has a very friendly, simple interface on my MacBook. Not sure how it stands on the PC platform.

[DrJones]

As previously explained somewhere else on these boards, the MWS shuffler works "bad" becouse it's actually random. As opposed to real life shuffling, which is influenced a a lot by shuffling techniques. So I'm not exaclty sure what you'd want to have fixed about that, really.The MWS shuffler is only "actually random" for decks of a size of 11 cards or less, due to limitations of the integer type used to store the random number.
Plus, MWS actually implements real-world shuffling techniques. It just doesn't use them during gameplay.

[Gocho]

I sent the spanish translation of Cockatrice to the developers and them add it to the official release.
You'll can choose "Español in the next version (or now if you download the sources and compile by yourself).

If anyone want to translate it to his foreign language and want some help, PM me. It's easy.
Currently German, English and Spanish are supported.

To test it, you can fin more players at European night, between 21:00 and 01:00, I believe that this is 3:00pm-7:00pm UTC

[mbruker]

Quoted from the Cockatrice website:

A new release is available on the download page.

ATTENTION:
- You have to recompile your card database using the oracle tool when upgrading. Not doing so will result in cards being placed very awkwardly.
- The new address of the server is play.cockatrice.de. The old server on cockatrice.de is not compatible with the new client version and is going to be shut down eventually.

This release fixes a couple of bugs and also introduces some new features and improvements:
- The table height was reduced to three rows. "Temporary" cards are now in an extra zone on the left. This leads to a higher zoom factor when there are not a lot of cards in one row.
- Zones can now be revealed to selected/all players. Revealing a card from your hand at random is also supported.
- Middle-clicking a card or a card name in the message log opens a popup window showing all the information about the card. This makes the info area in the top right corner superfluous, which is why you can now minimize it if you don't need it.
- Improved text rendering on cards.
- Card tap/untap animation
- Spanish translation by Gocho
- Avatar support (though you can't change your avatar yet)
- and many minor changes you will discover yourselves.

Have fun.

[Nihil Credo]

I've played a couple of games with the new version, and it's definitely much more stable - it never crashed on me at all.

Feature/bugfix request, sorted by importance:

- When spectating, card pictures didn't automatically download for me as they did when I was playing.
- I should be able to manipulate cards in my opponent's library that have been revealed to me (for stuff like Portent). If that is complicated, at least it should be possible to move cards from the top to the bottom of one's library without looking at them, for Jace TMS.
- Automatically displaying the printed P/T on creatures as they enter the battlefield would be extremely useful
- The custom messages I add under "Settings" don't seem to appear anywhere.
- In the right-click menu for cards in hand, "Flip" doesn't work and should be replaced by "Play this card face down" (most people won't remember Shift+double click).

- Hotkeys for adding/removing counters and for altering P/T on the fly would be nice
- An (optional) sideboarding interface more similar to that of the Deck Editor? And/or a button to sort them by CMC (more relevant to SB considerations) rather than by type?
- Saving frequently used token types, MWS-like?

[The Treefolk Master]

I've been having problems with the server lately. I tells me "Server Timeout" and stops working. Any ideas about what could me wrong?

[mbruker]

- When spectating, card pictures didn't automatically download for me as they did when I was playing.
That shouldn't make a difference. Do you remember the exact circumstances, or can you even reproduce it?

- I should be able to manipulate cards in my opponent's library that have been revealed to me (for stuff like Portent). If that is complicated, at least it should be possible to move cards from the top to the bottom of one's library without looking at them, for Jace TMS.
It's not complicated, it would just be inconsistent since you can't manipulate your opponent's stuff anywhere else in the game either. Putting the card on bottom without looking at it is possible by moving it face down to the table and then moving it back. There might be an easier way to do it in the future.
Your other points will be considered eventually :)

I tells me "Server Timeout" and stops working.
This has got to have something to do with your connection to the server. The server itself doesn't seem to have any stability problems right now. Are you sure it's not your internet connection?

[Gocho]

I tried to download the sourcecode yesterday to update the spanish translation and find some problems. I post them in the Cockatrice forum.

Another players in Spain find the same error trying to connect to play.

[DalkonCledwin]

I would like to report a bug. For some reason the image on the Jotun Grunt card in the cockatrice program does not seem to want to load. The same appears to be true of the Jotun Owl Keeper card. I don't know why this is happening, because I just tried searching for these cards using Gatherer, and couldn't find them using the word Jotun, but could find them using the word Jötun so apparently the Cockatrice wording is correct and that is my only guess as to why the pic won't load.

[markbris]

I would like to report a bug. For some reason the image on the Jotun Grunt card in the cockatrice program does not seem to want to load. The same appears to be true of the Jotun Owl Keeper card. I don't know why this is happening, because I just tried searching for these cards using Gatherer, and couldn't find them using the word Jotun, but could find them using the word Jötun so apparently the Cockatrice wording is correct and that is my only guess as to why the pic won't load.

noticed this as well

[Dia_Bot]

Could someone tell me how to play a particular basic land from a particular set?
Because I find the standard basic lands (M10) hard to find in my library.
(I'm new at cockatrice)

[mbruker]

Again, it's time for a new release. As usual, the client can be downloaded on the Download page.
Since it's been a long time since the last release, there have been a couple of changes:
- French and Japanese translation
- some visual improvements
- smoother picture caching
- cards in zone views can be selected
- removed chat rooms since they were not used, implemented play rooms instead
- changing the controller of cards works
- removed economical table layout, implemented stacking instead
- and a long list of minor fixes, see for yourself.

Attention: The main game server has moved to another IP address. A DNS update is taking place, but it might take a day or two to finish. In the meantime, if you cannot reach the new server via its DNS name, please use this address: 78.47.181.111


Could someone tell me how to play a particular basic land from a particular set?
With the automatic picture downloader, it's not possible because it just loads the most recent picture. This will be changed sometime, however.

[ZulaXao]

Do anyone can answer - how to cast card face-downed?

[mbruker]

Hold down shift while playing the card.

[Xeen]

I registered just before posting this and did a few games. I am actually really impressed by the programme and do highly recommend it to everybody. MWS always kind of annoyed me due to the whole download thing (pics) an so on. Also this seems to be alot more stable.
Keep up the good work mbruker!

[jazzykat]

This is an excellent program. I have a small screen and it does a lot more to help economize on space. The stability of it is also excellent. I'm really not sure what you guys did but it stays up forever compared to MWS.

[wilson]

neat program. auto updating cardbase, with pictures, runs smooth and stable... also chat lobby, spectating games and games with password... really good program. it just took some time getting used to though... after years of mws :D but i think i will mainly play with this program now... also it has more users connected as mws oO didnt know till now that program existed ... thanks^^

[Koby]

Are there any HOWTOs for installing this on Ubuntu 8.04? I'm having a lot of trouble updating my system just to compile the code, and I'm not a techy, so I don't have a clue either.

[mbruker]

I think Cockatrice will not work with Qt 4.4. It would be best to have at least 4.6. Ubuntu 8.04 didn't come with a recent enough Qt version when I last checked, but I don't know about their release style, so I can't tell exactly.
You need at least these packages: make, g++, libqt4-dev (at least that's how they're called in Debian, I guess it shouldn't make much of a difference).
Change to the cockatrice directory and execute: lrelease cockatrice.pro; qmake; make
Then do the same for oracle.

[rogue.nine]

Er dumb question but how do i wish for cards in my sideboard?

[mbruker]

Game menu -> Player menu -> Sideboard -> View
In the next release, there will be a shortcut for that.

[ZulaXao]

And another question: do you plan to add some sounds for bettrer playing at all?
/ssry for my such a poor english/

[NyxathidHorror]

I'm digging this program! Much better than MWS on my system.

[JeroenC]

When should I expect MBS to be in my card database? Wasn't able to find any "update database" option...

[Broham]

I've played about ten games so far and I am very happy with this program. Some of pictures don't load for some reason, but it's fast and easy to use.

[Gui]

Can it handle the pictures I already got for MWS? If so, I'll try it.

Also, can it handle .mwdeck?

[Infinitium]

So I'm trying to connect to cockatrice.de but keep getting Socket Error: Connection Refused? What gives?

[wcm8]

So I'm trying to connect to cockatrice.de but keep getting Socket Error: Connection Refused? What gives?

That's the old address. Check their website for the newest link.

[mbruker]

Can it handle the pictures I already got for MWS? If so, I'll try it.
Yes.

Also, can it handle .mwdeck?
Yes.

When should I expect MBS to be in my card database?
As stated in the news on the website, you have to re-run your Oracle downloader. MBS has been online since last Friday.

[TossUsToLions]

Can't recommend this enough. I've only played like 10 games, but absolutely no problems so far. If i tried playing 10 with MWS, i probably wouldve only gotten through 2 with no problems. Very easy to use and navigate and find games. Awesome job guys!

[keys]

I haven't read this thread at all, but I used cockatrice for a little bit and it's great. I just wish there were more people [in the U.S.] online.

[lorddotm]

It keeps saying that I have a wrong source to card database. Anyone have a solution?

[mbruker]

It keeps saying that I have a wrong source to card database. Anyone have a solution?
You need to run the Oracle tool first. Then point Cockatrice to the cards.xml file that was generated by Oracle.

[berksowl]

Cockatrice is cool. I'm glad it exists, and it is a useful way to test deck ideas.

But it's also pretty frustrating at times. I can't count how many times my opponent has kicked me out of the game, or just logged off, because my Pox deck was pissing him/her off, or because they didn't like the way the game was going, or because they mulled down to three and didn't like it. It can sometimes take quite a while to get a real game going, despite the fact that everyone has logged in for the same reason (to play Magic).

[Philipp2293]

Guess not all people log on just to play some magic, but rather for a little trolling too.

I have to admit that the ratio of idiots/decent people is lower than on MWS, but we'll have to see what happens if the use of Cockatrice becomes more widespread.

[Rekk]

Cockatrice is cool. I'm glad it exists, and it is a useful way to test deck ideas.

But it's also pretty frustrating at times. I can't count how many times my opponent has kicked me out of the game, or just logged off, because my Pox deck was pissing him/her off, or because they didn't like the way the game was going, or because they mulled down to three and didn't like it. It can sometimes take quite a while to get a real game going, despite the fact that everyone has logged in for the same reason (to play Magic).


I also hate when im actually trying to improve my skills with storm or dredge, because guess what they are a part of legacy. When i feel the format is open for them to dominate i would like to be good at them. They kick me from games or refuse to play board games. (dredge testing is only really relevant post board!)

Well my name on cockatrice is Rekk.

message me if you wanna test (message me on either here or cockatrice )

[Vacrix]

Cockatrice...

So I know there've been a million threads for MWS and Cockatrice and such in the mish mash, but there hasn't been one for like 9 pages back so...


Yeah.

There's replays now. In the most updated version (14).

That means its going to be fairly straight forward for people to see how a deck is actually played beyond just talking about theory and experience. Granted people already post feature matches, youtube videos, livestreams, etc. but this is a program that people already use. Pretty stoked on this new feature.

I'm sure all the OPs in the competitive forums will actually be able to show people how their deck works now without a bunch of redundant (how does this work) and such. Also, perhaps the MWS thread about people's hilarious experiences can get reopened now that you can easily just watch what happened, especially for hilarious games. For example, I had a hilarious game of Stasis vs. Blue Severance Belcher a while back. We only played game 1 and it took nothing short of 3 hours. Not that anyone would ever watch that, but regardless, it would be sick. That or we can just post replays here.

Also, the program keeps expanding its options a lot more. Everything is becoming more organized, easy to use, and comes with new features every time. Seriously happy with these developers.

[Phoenix Ignition]

This seems like something that should go in a Magic related section of the site, not the literal "Non-Magic" forum.

[Vacrix]

Agreed.

The replay system is actually mediocre right now. It only shows the text on the side rather than the game itself. I'm sure they'll upgrade the system eventually though so that you can actually watch the game.

[Nihil Credo]

Agreed.

The replay system is actually mediocre right now. It only shows the text on the side rather than the game itself. I'm sure they'll upgrade the system eventually though so that you can actually watch the game.
It actually shows the game itself, it's just very buggy and often doesn't load the table.

[Vacrix]

I see. I haven't yet gotten it to show the table yet. Perhaps in the next few versions it will be less buggy. Then OPs will have an easy time showing example games of utilizing matchup specific sideboard tech, complex lines of play, etc.

[sdematt]

Hey all,

I'm just wondering if anyone else ever had this issue. When I go to save my games, I name them and save them as .cod's in the Cockatrice Decks Folder. However, when I try to open a folder from there, the archive makes it look like all those folders are empty. But, when I manually search through that pathway via the start menu, all the files appear there.

Has anyone else had the files not show up when Loading or Saving Games, but are actually present? This has been VERY frustrating.

-Matt

[Sloshthedark]

any advice on redefining shortcuts? // chat phrases management? the classic Fxx shortcut doesn't work for me and going via 2 mouse dialogues is time consuming and clumsy in comparison to MWS, it's the only thing that holds me back from using the software... well the MWS has also better UI space mng but I should survive that...

[DalkonCledwin]

am I the only one for whom Cockatrice (in it's entirety) appears to be dead today?

I mean I can't get the cockatrice website to load, nor can I log onto either the 4747 server or the 4749 server. And I have a registered account so I should have a priority log on. Is this happening for anyone else?

[godofallu]

So have they added the option to add people to your friends list even when they are offline yet? I just started using Cockatrice a lot but don't really have a friends list and would love to get some source users on my list for legacy games.

Just got done with a 9 game, 3 match set with a great guy and oh man was it some perfect Legacy. I may be a tad biased though since I won all 3.

Hymn -> brainstorm in response. Catch only lands.
Karakas Clique locks, and a game lost due to me getting greedy and using Garruk to remove a Clique at 2 life when I could have abrupt decay'd. Spell pierce'd caught me being greedy. Had the chance to stabilize since I was up 5 cards with all gas too.
Perfect read on a wasteland, opponent complaining about lack of lands so I dug hard with library into another 2 wastelands to super seal the deal.

Anyways my username is godofallu on cockatrice too and i'll be hanging online for a while while I watch some star trek and play a few more matches. Feel free to add me if you read this and like legacy.

[shpishay]

Wouldn't mind playing a few legacy games - look me up by my username! Eastern timezone in the U.S. here.

[Psyqo]

Been using this with a friend lately. Very happy with the application. Only thing I need is some bigger display or alert when an opponent disconnects. Went through one of my turns yesterday and waited about 5 minutes, assumed the guy went afk. Looked back up in the chat log and found this tiny line "XYZ's session has ended." or something like that. Oh well!

[mojoiskewl]

http://i.imgur.com/oHrrXi0.jpg


Anybody know what happened?

[Shimster]

Anybody know what happened?

Any relevant information can be looked up here (http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/19bkiz/cockatrice_down_due_to_a_legal_dispute/). Best wishes to mbruker!

[dsck]

Is MWS down as well? If not, why?

[Lemnear]

http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/19bkiz/cockatrice_down_due_to_a_legal_dispute/

In Short: Hasbro had put up a legal issue against Cockatrice and it's shut down


Edit: missed shimster already Posted the link

[Koby]

Do we know the context of the C&D?
Is it copyright infringement for the imported Card Art?
Is is patent infringement for the use of the Tap mechanic/wording?

Curious minds inquiring.

[nedleeds]

Is magiccards.info down ? if not then why ?

[dsck]

Is magiccards.info down ? if not then why ?

Are you acting like retard or are you one?

MWS and Cockatrice are similar programs but MWS has been around a long time and now suddenly WOTC decides to axe Cockatrice? Just wondering why not both if they are going to do it?

[mini1337s]

Still able to play here:
play.woogerworks.com

[nedleeds]

Are you acting like retard or are you one?

MWS and Cockatrice are similar programs but MWS has been around a long time and now suddenly WOTC decides to axe Cockatrice? Just wondering why not both if they are going to do it?

Does your memory not function as a side effect of your retardation? Read a fucking history book on Magic related online resources / organized play / desktops and WotC before you open your eMouth.

http://mtgrares.blogspot.com/2009/04/wizards-shuts-down-magic-leaguecom.html

They also C&D'ed the distribution of Apprentice32 and Netdraft in 1999.

They C&D'ed all of the MTG related Android and iOS apps last February.

Why are you asking why? You think any WotC lawyers are lurking here to answer your legal questions?

[Barook]

The better question is how MWS still manages to be around.

Shutting down free ways to play Magic online makes sense, though, as they are competitors for MODO.

[KobeBryan]

I wonder why Hasbro did this for?

The majority of the people don't use cockatrice as a substitute over paper magic. People use cockatrice as a place to playtest for FNM or for tournaments that help Hasbro make money.

I guess i'll be quitting soon. I use cockatrice mainly since I don't have too many friends to playtest with for a tournament. On the occasion I do go to a tournament with my brother, I won't have a deck playtested thoroughly enough to even compete.

[Einherjer]

https://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-drop-charges-against-cockatrice#share

[KobeBryan]

Well to Hasbro, they don't pocket money from a secondary market directly. People who use cockatrice are usually playtesting cards that they will eventually purchase singles.

[nedleeds]

The better question is how MWS still manages to be around.

Some possible reasons ...

It's positioned as a virtual table top pretty well in it's documentation and supports multiple CCGs
It's tabletop engine is peer to peer and thus doesn't have a central server to 'shut down' (it can be run through a 3rd party server process as well for those cut off from firewalls and whatnot)

[Koby]

The better question is how MWS still manages to be around.

Shutting down free ways to play Magic online makes sense, though, as they are competitors for MODO.

One could make a sound argument that Windows 3.1 and MS QDOS are competitors to MTGO. Have you seen the state of the program? By extension, recording your own games with a camera and broadcasting that to the internet are competitors to MTGO.

[Aggro_zombies]

One could make a sound argument that Windows 3.1 and MS QDOS are competitors to MTGO. Have you seen the state of the program? By extension, recording your own games with a camera and broadcasting that to the internet are competitors to MTGO.
It doesn't matter if the program is shittier than its competitors - what matters is that people aren't paying money to use WotC's intellectual property when they use competitors. That in itself is a legal issue. That said, even if MTGO were the bestest program evar, people would still use programs like MWS and Cockatrice because the latter are free while MTGO isn't, and WotC would therefore still have the same incentives to shut them down.

It just helps the competitors' cause that MTGO is a shitty program.

EDIT: Come to think of it, most programs Wizards puts out are garbage. Duels of the Planeswalkers is oddly polished when you compare it to, say, MTGO or DCI Reporter or any of the other shitastic bugfests WotC produces in-house.

[nedleeds]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/Showsni/Shandalar/sh148.jpg

[Fropper]

There are some news over @ the cockatrice Homepage
www.cockatrice.de

[twndomn]

It is possible for anyone to setup Cocatrice server. In the future, please do not post server info here, PM interested people instead.

[apple713]

I looking for someone to test a homebrew with. Its dark depths. Ive worked out like 90% of the issues but need to get some serious testing in against a few decks and some input from experienced players. Message me if interested.

[Phelix]

cockatrice is UP @wooger today.

currently only 4 players. come legacy with me!

[Finn]

Ahh, Cockatrice...


The game has started.

It is now Finn's turn.

It is now the untap step.
 Finn: hi
Th3 W1z4rd rolls a 5 with a 20-sided die.
 Th3 W1z4rd: hi
Th3 W1z4rd shuffles his library.
Finn shuffles his library.
Th3 W1z4rd draws 7 card(s).
Finn rolls a 18 with a 20-sided die.
 Th3 W1z4rd: kp
 Finn: p
Finn draws his initial hand.
 Finn: kp
Finn puts Plains into play from hand.
Finn taps Plains.
Finn plays Mother of Runes from hand.
 Th3 W1z4rd: k
Finn puts Mother of Runes into play from the stack.
It is now the ending phase.

It is now Th3 W1z4rd's turn.

It is now the untap step.
It is now the upkeep step.
It is now the draw step.
Th3 W1z4rd draws 1 card(s).
It is now the first main phase.
 Th3 W1z4rd: thinking
 Finn: ok
Th3 W1z4rd puts Lotus Petal into play from hand.
It is now the ending phase.

It is now Finn's turn.

It is now the untap step.
Finn untaps his permanents.
Finn untaps his permanents.
It is now the upkeep step.
It is now the draw step.
Finn draws 1 card(s).
It is now the first main phase.
Finn puts Rishadan Port into play from hand.
Finn taps Plains.
Finn taps Rishadan Port.
Finn plays Thalia, Guardian of Thraben from hand.
Th3 W1z4rd has left the game.
 Finn: Your turn
 Finn: Oh

[th3 w1z4rd]

Ahh, Cockatrice...

Congrats on beating Tendrils with a turn 2 Thalia game 1. Very impressive.

[bakofried]

Why didn't you play out games two and three?

[Finn]

You don't know why I posted that, do you...
I think I see why. My post lacks detail. I suppose it makes sense that a person who is of the character to ragequit is also the kind of person who would not understand why that makes him a douche. So I will spell this out for you as well as I can.

It does not matter that I had the game wrapped up on turn 2. That is not the point. It does not matter that you were packing a high risk, high reward deck, and then got pissy like a toddler when your risk did not pay off. It does not matter that you thought for a long time before deciding not to go for it on turn 1, and then showed me how upset your were with me at your own failed gamble by clicking that X in the corner.

What matters is that...
Magic is a great game. The only thing more universally acclaimed is sex. Cockatrice is not the real thing though. But when you need a fix, it is available day or night...in the privacy of your room. Nobody watching. And having to deal with the complete lack of common courtesy of some feckless twit ragequitting is akin to having someone put IcyHot in your tube of Vaseline.

[Richard Cheese]

The only thing more universally acclaimed is sex.

That whole post was hilarious, but really? I think I'd go with Soccer over Magic for universal acclaim. Probably even over sex because...you know...religion.

Edit: Also ragequitting is shitty. The shortcut for conceding a game is F2, just sack up and play out the rest of the "round".

[mini1337s]

Edit: Also ragequitting is shitty. The shortcut for conceding a game is F2, just sack up and play out the rest of the "round".
Agreed, too many people act like toddlers when there is literally nothing on the line. Plus, there is often opportunity to learn by playing it out.

In terms of Cockatrice grievances, my favourite move is when you get someone who Mulls 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and then kicks you. A close second is Cliquing an opponent and rather than them putting the card on the battlefield and moving it to the bottom of the library, they just move a card from their hand to the bottom of the library...

[Dragonslayer_90]

This is one of the reasons I am actually considering moving to Modo, as bad as the software is. I think this problem with cockatrice is unavoidable. I think it's just better to either test by yourself (no fun but you gotta do what you gotta do when you have a hard time finding people to test with) or find people to test with. Thus, I was wondering if it would be possible to start a clan, playtesting group, or something for source members who play on Cockatrice. Anyone game or have any similar ideas?

[mini1337s]

This is one of the reasons I am actually considering moving to Modo, as bad as the software is. I think this problem with cockatrice is unavoidable. I think it's just better to either test by yourself (no fun but you gotta do what you gotta do when you have a hard time finding people to test with) or find people to test with. Thus, I was wondering if it would be possible to start a clan, playtesting group, or something for source members who play on Cockatrice. Anyone game or have any similar ideas?
My suggestion is to try to remember the good players and join their games in the future. Also, changing your game to allow registered users only takes .5 seconds and makes a world of difference.

[Dragonslayer_90]

Question: Has anyone ever had a problem with cockatrice being a source of malware?

[JanoschEausH]

Question: Has anyone ever had a problem with cockatrice being a source of malware?

Well my browser (Chrome) declared the installer as malware, after I downloaded it from dropbox. I don't know if this is true, but I couldn't imagine them making that installer as malware, so I deactivated Chrome Protection.

I scanned the installer afterwards with Kaspersky 2014 and the result was negative.

[Kanti]

Can anyone help me compile this crap on Ubuntu? I'm not too good in the terminal, and am getting stuck when i hit "Cmake ..". If someone knows what I'm talking about post back so I can post a line of my terminal and show what is going wrong.

edit: nevermind, fixed!

[Holiday]

I just started using Cockatrice yesterday. I am looking to do a lot of testing and I don't know anyone in my area that plays competitive Legacy. I watched a couple youtube videos on how to use the program and overall etiquette. I'm a little slow but I think I'm getting the hang of it. I've been putting in my game titles that I'm a new player and the people who have played with me so far have been pretty patient with me.

Anyways, I'm HolidayMTG on there if anyone wants to play. PM me and we can set up a time. Not sure how many Sourcers still use Cockatrice but it would be nice to play with any of you. I don't care if you play a tier 1 deck or if you want to test out a new brew. My attitude is you gotta be ready for anything in Legacy.

[Barook]

I need to customize my background etc. again.

Does anybody have good backgrounds/suggestions?

[decan]

anybody else having problems? i downloaded the two most recent versions today and still cant connect =(

[dsck]

anybody else having problems? i downloaded the two most recent versions today and still cant connect =(

No problems at my end, I have the latest version. Check your firewall?

[decan]

are you on version d55e44e?

Edit: got it to work, had to reenter the server data...

[KobeBryan]

I have a login issue

anyone else have that?

how do you fix.

[decan]

I have a login issue

anyone else have that?

how do you fix.

Download the latest version and make sure the server details are correct...

[venice]

Download the latest version and make sure the server details are correct...

I have the same issue. What exactly are the server details and where can I see if mine are up to date/ correct?

EDIT: Ok , I just updated to the newest client and now it´s working again. :smile:

[KobeBryan]

What is the host and port info?

[Sloshthedark]

is there an option of autodownloading the oldest art by setting/database/whatever? as a lold time player I'm offended by new frame&art I can custom change my card arts to not be ashamed but the rest makes me feel uneasy...

[Speedbump]

is there an option of autodownloading the oldest art by setting/database/whatever? as a lold time player I'm offended by new frame&art I can custom change my card arts to not be ashamed but the rest makes me feel uneasy...I believe so.

In the 'Card Database' option, select 'Edit Sets', and then you can sort by release date. From memory, this will automatically download older art over newer art, as the topmost set should have priority for image downloads.

[Sloshthedark]

thanks for the swift reply! doesn't work perfectly for all art but is good starting point

[Einherjer]

thanks for the swift reply! doesn't work perfectly for all art but is good starting point

You can also look for the set that you'd like to use and just look for them in the database and move them to the top via dragging or using the icon for it, this way you can decide which kind of Duals/Basics are displayed for you and your opponents. Should work without any flaws, to be honest.

Greetings

[Sloshthedark]

You can also look for the set that you'd like to use and just look for them in the database and move them to the top via dragging or using the icon for it, this way you can decide which kind of Duals/Basics are displayed for you and your opponents. Should work without any flaws, to be honest.

Greetings

thanks, for some reason Graveborn and something did not respect the sort by date, disabling the sets helped

[iamajellydonut]

Can we still shit talk in this thread?

I had Leyline of the Void in play. Following is all relevant text. Bold is just where it all comes together.

[18:12:30] It is now Ancestral93's turn.
[18:12:30] It is now the untap step.
Ancestral93 untaps his permanents.
[18:12:31] It is now the draw step.
Ancestral93 draws 1 card(s).
Ancestral93 puts Lotus Petal into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 taps Underground Sea.
Ancestral93 taps Island.
Ancestral93 taps Underground Sea.
Ancestral93 plays Rebuild from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 5 (+1).
[18:13:09]  paf: very nice
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 3 (-1).
paf moves Ethersworn Canonist from play to her hand.
Ancestral93 moves Lion's Eye Diamond from play to his hand.
Ancestral93 moves Lotus Petal from play to his hand.
Ancestral93 exiles Rebuild from the stack.
Ancestral93 puts Lotus Petal into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Lotus Petal from play.
Ancestral93 plays Dark Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Dark Ritual from the stack.
Ancestral93 plays Cabal Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 7 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Cabal Ritual from the stack.
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 8 (+1).
Ancestral93 plays Infernal Tutor from his hand.
Ancestral93 exiles Lion's Eye Diamond from play.
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Infernal Tutor from the stack.
Ancestral93 is looking at his library.
Ancestral93 puts Infernal Tutor into play from library.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 9 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (-1).
[18:13:53]  paf: gg
g3
[18:13:56]  Ancestral93: gg
sure
paf has conceded the game.
[18:14:00]  paf: that was neato
thinking
that actually didn't work
you added BBBB for Dark Ritual
[18:14:59]  Ancestral93: nop
i had BBB, then cabal ritual for aditional B
[18:15:19]  paf: read the log
"Ancestral93 exiles Lotus Petal from play.
Ancestral93 plays Dark Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Dark Ritual from the stack."
[18:15:53]  Ancestral93: look the cabal, i ahd all along but there is it
Ancestral93 has lost connection to the game.

[KobeBryan]

Can we still shit talk in this thread?

I had Leyline of the Void in play. Following is all relevant text. Bold is just where it all comes together.

[18:12:30] It is now Ancestral93's turn.
[18:12:30] It is now the untap step.
Ancestral93 untaps his permanents.
[18:12:31] It is now the draw step.
Ancestral93 draws 1 card(s).
Ancestral93 puts Lotus Petal into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 taps Underground Sea.
Ancestral93 taps Island.
Ancestral93 taps Underground Sea.
Ancestral93 plays Rebuild from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 5 (+1).
[18:13:09]  paf: very nice
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 3 (-1).
paf moves Ethersworn Canonist from play to her hand.
Ancestral93 moves Lion's Eye Diamond from play to his hand.
Ancestral93 moves Lotus Petal from play to his hand.
Ancestral93 exiles Rebuild from the stack.
Ancestral93 puts Lotus Petal into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Lotus Petal from play.
Ancestral93 plays Dark Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Dark Ritual from the stack.
Ancestral93 plays Cabal Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 7 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Cabal Ritual from the stack.
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 8 (+1).
Ancestral93 plays Infernal Tutor from his hand.
Ancestral93 exiles Lion's Eye Diamond from play.
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Infernal Tutor from the stack.
Ancestral93 is looking at his library.
Ancestral93 puts Infernal Tutor into play from library.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 9 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (-1).
[18:13:53]  paf: gg
g3
[18:13:56]  Ancestral93: gg
sure
paf has conceded the game.
[18:14:00]  paf: that was neato
thinking
that actually didn't work
you added BBBB for Dark Ritual
[18:14:59]  Ancestral93: nop
i had BBB, then cabal ritual for aditional B
[18:15:19]  paf: read the log
"Ancestral93 exiles Lotus Petal from play.
Ancestral93 plays Dark Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Dark Ritual from the stack."
[18:15:53]  Ancestral93: look the cabal, i ahd all along but there is it
Ancestral93 has lost connection to the game.

who cares, you're both dicks

[EviL668-2]

Hello Folks,

Did you encounter some strange lag problems yesterday on the woogerworks main server?
I added a sophos utm to my network so maybe my problems are related to the firewall.
Of course I added a allow rule to cockatrice.woogerworks.com:443!
Any suggestions?

[Ancestral]

Can we still shit talk in this thread?

I had Leyline of the Void in play. Following is all relevant text. Bold is just where it all comes together.

[18:12:30] It is now Ancestral93's turn.
[18:12:30] It is now the untap step.
Ancestral93 untaps his permanents.
[18:12:31] It is now the draw step.
Ancestral93 draws 1 card(s).
Ancestral93 puts Lotus Petal into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 taps Underground Sea.
Ancestral93 taps Island.
Ancestral93 taps Underground Sea.
Ancestral93 plays Rebuild from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 5 (+1).
[18:13:09]  paf: very nice
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 3 (-1).
paf moves Ethersworn Canonist from play to her hand.
Ancestral93 moves Lion's Eye Diamond from play to his hand.
Ancestral93 moves Lotus Petal from play to his hand.
Ancestral93 exiles Rebuild from the stack.
Ancestral93 puts Lotus Petal into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Lotus Petal from play.
Ancestral93 plays Dark Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Dark Ritual from the stack.
Ancestral93 plays Cabal Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 7 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Cabal Ritual from the stack.
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 8 (+1).
Ancestral93 plays Infernal Tutor from his hand.
Ancestral93 exiles Lion's Eye Diamond from play.
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Infernal Tutor from the stack.
Ancestral93 is looking at his library.
Ancestral93 puts Infernal Tutor into play from library.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 9 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 5 (-1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (-1).
[18:13:53]  paf: gg
g3
[18:13:56]  Ancestral93: gg
sure
paf has conceded the game.
[18:14:00]  paf: that was neato
thinking
that actually didn't work
you added BBBB for Dark Ritual
[18:14:59]  Ancestral93: nop
i had BBB, then cabal ritual for aditional B
[18:15:19]  paf: read the log
"Ancestral93 exiles Lotus Petal from play.
Ancestral93 plays Dark Ritual from his hand.
Ancestral93 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 1 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 2 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 3 (+1).
Ancestral93 sets counter b to 4 (+1).
Ancestral93 exiles Dark Ritual from the stack."
[18:15:53]  Ancestral93: look the cabal, i ahd all along but there is it
Ancestral93 has lost connection to the game.

well i saw that later but not really in the mood for an argue about cocktrice games, and yes i quit a lot of games there just because i m bored....who cares anyway it´s cockatrice..

[PirateKing]

I got kicked, good sportsmanship out there:



[19:06:36] It is now BalanceMage's turn.

[19:06:36] It is now the untap step.
NinjaGodKing shuffles his library.
BalanceMage rolls a 13 with a 20-sided die.
NinjaGodKing shuffles his library.
BalanceMage draws his initial hand.
[19:06:41]  BalanceMage: kp
NinjaGodKing rolls a 19 with a 20-sided die.
NinjaGodKing draws his initial hand.
[19:06:49]  NinjaGodKing: kp

[19:06:52] It is now NinjaGodKing's turn.

[19:06:53] It is now the untap step.
[19:06:54] It is now the first main phase.
NinjaGodKing puts Polluted Delta into play from his hand.
[19:06:59] It is now the ending phase.

[19:07:02] It is now BalanceMage's turn.

[19:07:02] It is now the untap step.
[19:07:04] It is now the upkeep step.
[19:07:04] It is now the draw step.
BalanceMage draws 1 card(s).
BalanceMage puts Island into play from his hand.
BalanceMage plays Ponder from his hand.
BalanceMage taps Island.
[19:07:16]  NinjaGodKing: kk
BalanceMage is looking at the top 3 card(s) of his library.
BalanceMage puts Jace, the Mind Sculptor from library on top of his library.
BalanceMage puts Brainstorm from library on top of his library.
BalanceMage puts Jace, the Mind Sculptor from library on top of his library.
BalanceMage stops looking at his library.
BalanceMage draws 1 card(s).
BalanceMage puts Ponder from the stack into his graveyard.
[19:07:18] It is now the ending phase.
NinjaGodKing plays Surgical Extraction from his hand.
NinjaGodKing sets counter life to 19 (-1).
NinjaGodKing sets counter life to 18 (-1).
NinjaGodKing has left the game.

[jrsthethird]

Why do you see the cards that he was Pondering?

[PirateKing]

Why do you see the cards that he was Pondering?

I copied that from the game replay, when I wanted to see what the big huff was over.

[ironclad8690]

ironclad8690 plays Aluren from his hand.
Ponders taps Glimmerpost.
Ponders points from his Glimmerpost to his Sensei's Divining Top.
Ponders is looking at the top 3 card(s) of his library.
Ponders stops looking at his library.
Ponders has conceded the game.
ironclad8690 has unlocked his sideboard.
[16:46:30]  Ponders: not a real deck
no g2

Hey guys, I just remembered why I play magic online!

[jrsthethird]

What in the top three told him is wasn't a real deck?

[ironclad8690]

He didnt want to play against aluren.

[Fry]

What do you guys think of making a Facebook Page so we and other people we know who aren't morons and rage quit because they can't handle a game can be in easier contact and set up games with a lot more ease? I'm all for it, and hope several of you guys are too. Have it as a closed group so that people can request to be added, but they need to be vouched for a current member to be allowed to join the group so that we don't have issues with all sorts of people doing rage quits and excommunicate those who do anyway.

[iamajellydonut]

hnnnnrg this shit is satisfying. Fuck you, Modern.

"[15:18:41] It is now the untap step.
paf untaps her permanents.
[15:18:42] It is now the draw step.
paf plays Bring to Light from the top of her library.
paf points from her Bring to Light to her Keranos, God of Storms.
paf points from her Keranos, God of Storms to Berserek7.
Berserek7 has left the game."

[iamajellydonut]

omg...

[21:27:26] It is now the ending phase.

[21:27:26] It is now BigBootyJudy's turn.

[21:27:26] It is now the untap step.
BigBootyJudy untaps his permanents.
[21:27:26] It is now the upkeep step.
[21:27:26] It is now the draw step.
BigBootyJudy plays Life from the Loam from his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy plays Tormenting Voice from the top of his library.
BigBootyJudy plays Life from the Loam from the top of his library.
BigBootyJudy plays Bloodstained Mire from the top of his library.
BigBootyJudy moves Tormenting Voice from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy moves Life from the Loam from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy moves Bloodstained Mire from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy puts Life from the Loam from the stack into his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy puts Bloodstained Mire into play from his hand.
BigBootyJudy puts Bloodstained Mire from play into his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy sets counter life to 13 (-1).
BigBootyJudy is looking at his library.
BigBootyJudy puts Overgrown Tomb into play tapped from library.
BigBootyJudy stops looking at his library.
BigBootyJudy shuffles his library.
BigBootyJudy taps Stomping Ground.
BigBootyJudy taps Plains.
BigBootyJudy plays Life from the Loam from his hand.
BigBootyJudy plays Windswept Heath from his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy plays Bloodstained Mire from his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy puts Life from the Loam from the stack into his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy moves Bloodstained Mire from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy moves Windswept Heath from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy taps Swamp.
[21:29:07]  paf: you
BigBootyJudy plays Windswept Heath from his hand.
[21:29:07]  paf: uuuh
BigBootyJudy plays Raven's Crime from his graveyard.
BigBootyJudy puts Windswept Heath from the stack into his graveyard.
[21:29:08]  paf: you took all of those cards that you dredged
and put them in your hand
[21:29:10]  BigBootyJudy: no i didnt
[21:29:11]  paf: BigBootyJudy moves Tormenting Voice from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy moves Life from the Loam from the stack to his hand.
BigBootyJudy moves Bloodstained Mire from the stack to his hand.
you clearly just did
[21:29:12]  BigBootyJudy: loam
i cast it
[21:29:13]  paf: dredged them
and theeeeeen
where's the tormenting voice?
[21:29:18]  BigBootyJudy: well someones a cunt

[jmlima]

What do you guys think of making a Facebook Page so we and other people we know who aren't morons and rage quit because they can't handle a game can be in easier contact and set up games with a lot more ease? I'm all for it, and hope several of you guys are too. Have it as a closed group so that people can request to be added, but they need to be vouched for a current member to be allowed to join the group so that we don't have issues with all sorts of people doing rage quits and excommunicate those who do anyway.

Good idea!

This would also allow us to procure games in real time, by posting a 'who is up to...' post.

[Technics]

magiczila puts Thought-Knot Seer into play from his hand.
magiczila points from his Thought-Knot Seer to Technics.
magiczila taps Cavern of Souls.
magiczila taps Eye of Ugin.
magiczila taps Karakas.
Technics plays Force of Will from his hand.
Technics exiles Thought Lash from his hand.
Technics sets counter life to 8 (-1).
magiczila points from his Cavern of Souls to Technics's Force of Will.
magiczila points from his Karakas to Technics's Force of Will.
magiczila points from his Eye of Ugin to Technics's Force of Will.
Technics points from his Force of Will to magiczila's Thought-Knot Seer.
[22:42:08]  Technics: counter it
[22:42:12]  magiczila: CAVERN
CANT COUNTER
[22:42:29]  Technics: do you want me to teach you to play your deck?
with what COLORLESS mana
Cavern is only uncounterable if it is colored...
[22:42:45]  magiczila: VERY STUPID

[Fry]

Well with the other lands tapped it would have to have made colorless mana, but you can still use it normally as a generic mana to make it uncounterable, just not with those lands...

[iamajellydonut]

[22:42:12]  magiczila: CAVERN
CANT COUNTER
VERY STUPID

This is delicious.

[Technics]

This is delicious.

I was then promptly thrown on an ignore list...

[MorphBerlin]

Is the server down atm or something? Because I cannot get access to any room :/

[ParkerLewis]

Hi everyone,

Yesterday seeing some interns at work playing MtG gave me the urge to go at it again after years of abstinence.

I see MWS has basically been replaced with Cockatrice. I have installed it, and I see that it gets pictures on-the-fly. But these pictures are of lower quality than the ones I used to have.

I have gotten up-to-date HQ versions of the card arts.

- They're classified by set/extension (1 folder per set)
- They're not exactly of the name that Cockatrice expects (they have an additional .xlhq suffix before the .jpg)

How can I best / easily have Cockatrice use them ?

- I want to keep the folder structure otherwise it'll be a mess (plus no way to distinguish between sets).
- I want to keep it easy to track which sets I have in HQ and which sets come from the LQ on-the-fly download.

Using the Custom folder is an easy way to distinguish between HQ and LQ, but it seems the Custom folder only expects singled-out cards, not folders / sets. Is there any way to change that ? In this case I could potentially remove the .xlhq suffix myself (with a tool like Ant Renamer), even though I'd rather also find a way for Cockatrice to expect it and not edit file names at all.

Alternatively, I could use the "downloadedPics" folder, but then I'd definitely want to keep the the .xlhq suffix before the .jpg to keep it easy to track whether a card/set is in HQ or not. So I would then require a way to 1) tell Cockatrice to expect it like before, but also 2) to NOT add it automatically to pics it downloads itself.

Thanks for your help.

[ScottW]

Why can I not get Cockatrice to download on my PC? Is there some special procedure I'm missing? I have a PC -- not a MAC. If anybody is willing to give pointers or has a guide link, I'd REALLY appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

[Ponders]

Did I win the thread? Not funny anymore? Whats up?

[LegacyIsAnEternalFormat]

Why'd you block me Ponders? I had fun playing against your mono g scapeshift 12post deck...

[Fry]

Why'd you block me Ponders? I had fun playing against your mono g scapeshift 12post deck...

Because how else would all of his Legacy games continue going that way on Cockatrice?

[Ponders]

Why'd you block me Ponders? I had fun playing against your mono g scapeshift 12post deck...

Hmm, whats your handle? Are you a creep? Slow? Those are the two most frequent reasons. Or maybe I was just tired of playing against the same decks over and over (oh another shardless player) so I thinned it out. In which case don't take it personal, unless you were a creep. Or if you ever mull'd and then didn't scry for a long time, like a minute. I've blocked people for being unintuitive. Say, I have 1 land out and its a cloudpost, and I put a vesuva on top of it and you asked..copying? Or if you got bossy and tried to insist I annotate it. I mean, yeah I've blocked people for having that level of ignorance. If you're one of those that put True name into play, and there are only 2 of us in the game, and then you point to me or annotate "You", then yeah I probably blocked you. I blocked ninja ferret for being annoying, we never played a match I just got tired of reading his snarky comments in the forum.

All in all, in a format that tends to play the same 5 or so decks, I get a fairly representative distribution of matches.

[LegacyIsAnEternalFormat]

Because how else would all of his Legacy games continue going that way on Cockatrice?

I dont understand this sentence. It seems to be directed at me so I want to know what you're talking about.

Ponders- With your criteria youve probably got 3/4 of Cockatrice blocked on there. Whatever...

[Fry]

I meant that not all of his Cockatrice matches would "end up" if he didn't block everyone and their unborn sibling.

Ponders: I've blocked people before for being ignorant and raging when I'm trying to explain an interaction that they don't like that I can do. I'v blocked people who have kicked me from games, I have not blocked people for annotating "you" on a TNN... What's the point of that? Not a big deal if you just want to play the format.

I also play several different decks when I'm on there, Imperial Taxes, Death and Taxes, Aluren, MUD, Lands, Nic Fit, and randomly decks I'm just getting a feel for and augmenting.

[Ponders]

I meant that not all of his Cockatrice matches would "end up" if he didn't block everyone and their unborn sibling.

Ponders: I've blocked people before for being ignorant and raging when I'm trying to explain an interaction that they don't like that I can do. I'v blocked people who have kicked me from games, I have not blocked people for annotating "you" on a TNN... What's the point of that? Not a big deal if you just want to play the format.

I also play several different decks when I'm on there, Imperial Taxes, Death and Taxes, Aluren, MUD, Lands, Nic Fit, and randomly decks I'm just getting a feel for and augmenting.


It annoys me for people to be that pedantic, and it eats up precious seconds.

[TheArchitect]

Ponders is on my block list. If I remember correctly he is the guy that repeatedly types stuff into the chat like "sigh", "groan", "yawn", etc every time I cast a blue spell.

[Ponders]

Ponders is on my block list. If I remember correctly he is the guy that repeatedly types stuff into the chat like "sigh", "groan", "yawn", etc every time I cast a blue spell.



That would not be the reason. I would not waste the energy to slowing down the game in such a way. Totally out of character for me. As I remember you're a miracles pilot and I play post at least 50% of the time which is overall a favorable matchup. Even if I win-some/lose some, I probably just lost interest in your game and another pilot is around the corner. Although, now that I think about it, the miracles matches do dry up once the word gets out. Go figure. That would explain your block. kthanksbai!

[14:26:57]  Ponders: hello, kp
JonBoy shuffles his library.
JonBoy shuffles his library.
JonBoy draws his initial hand.
[14:27:12]  JonBoy: kp
[14:28:04]  Ponders: ok
5
4
JonBoy untaps his permanents.
[14:28:30]  Ponders: 3

[14:28:34] It is now JonBoy's turn.

[14:28:34] It is now the untap step.
JonBoy untaps his permanents.
[14:28:38] It is now the upkeep step.
[14:28:40] It is now the draw step.
[14:28:43] It is now the first main phase.
JonBoy has left the game.

^ This guy is on my ignore list for taking nearly 2 minutes to draw, keep and not play a card. An entire game would be excruciating. I do unblock people sometimes if I don't remember why. Anyone can be having a bad day.

[Dice_Box]

The only way you get me on that fucking prgram these days is if we are on Skype/Mumble at the same time.

[Chatto]

Ponders: kp
cjpearse puts Plains into play from his hand.
cjpearse puts AEther Vial into play from his hand.
cjpearse taps Plains.
It is now the ending phase.
It is now Ponders's turn.

It is now the untap step.
Ponders untaps his permanents.

(...)

You have been kicked out of the game.

I was wondering where this was going :laugh::laugh:

[Rocco111]

First of, I did not know about this thread here. And I had fun reading some 'stories'.

Now I do not know what to think about you, Ponders... Are you trying to demonstrate or prove anything in particular? Or are you just pumping up your ego? Because we all make some arguingly bad experiences online at times but you either attract all the dirt on Earth and are proving it to the rest of the world, or you are the only one posting here and do it so much that others are afraid to 'challenge you' posting their own stories.

Either way, I recognized some players I also blocked which I won't name here to cut off any potential useless bitch-slapping. But for those, I'll understand why you blocked them too. :wink:

[ahg113]

Just amusing because

Ponders has joined the game.
Ponders has loaded a deck with 15 sideboard cards (8l5uam4e).
Ponders is ready to start the game.
[22:18:02]  ahg113: hello
[22:18:03]  Ponders: hey
ahg113 is ready to start the game.
The game has started.

[22:18:04] It is now ahg113's turn.

[22:18:04] It is now the untap step.
Ponders rolls a 6 with a 20-sided die.
Ponders shuffles his library.
[22:18:04]  ahg113: gl, hf
Ponders draws 7 card(s).
ahg113 rolls a 14 with a 20-sided die.
[22:18:05]  ahg113: ip
ahg113 shuffles his library.
ahg113 draws his initial hand.
[22:18:05]  Ponders: ill kp
[22:18:06]  ahg113: kp
[22:18:07] It is now the first main phase.
ahg113 puts Marsh Flats into play from his hand.
[22:18:08] It is now the ending phase.

[22:18:08] It is now Ponders's turn.

[22:18:08] It is now the untap step.
Ponders untaps his permanents.
Ponders draws 1 card(s).
Ponders puts Tropical Island into play from his hand.
Ponders puts Sensei's Divining Top into play from his hand.
Ponders taps Tropical Island.
[22:18:09] It is now the ending phase.

[22:18:11] It is now ahg113's turn.

[22:18:11] It is now the untap step.
[22:18:11] It is now the draw step.
ahg113 draws 1 card(s).
[22:18:11] It is now the first main phase.
ahg113 puts Swamp into play from his hand.
ahg113 puts Marsh Flats from play into his graveyard.
ahg113 sets counter life to 19 (-1).
ahg113 is looking at his library.
ahg113 puts Plains into play from library.
ahg113 stops looking at his library.
ahg113 shuffles his library.
ahg113 taps Swamp.
ahg113 taps Plains.
ahg113 plays Phyrexian Revoker from his hand.
[22:18:15]  Ponders: k
ahg113 puts Phyrexian Revoker into play from the stack.
ahg113 sets annotation of Phyrexian Revoker to "SDT".
[22:18:16] It is now the ending phase.

[22:18:16] It is now Ponders's turn.

[22:18:16] It is now the untap step.
Ponders untaps his permanents.
Ponders draws 1 card(s).
Ponders puts Glimmerpost into play from his hand.
Ponders sets counter life to 21 (+1).
Ponders taps Glimmerpost.
Ponders puts Pithing Needle into play from his hand.
Ponders sets annotation of Pithing Needle to "wasteland".
[22:18:19] It is now the ending phase.

[22:18:19] It is now ahg113's turn.

[22:18:19] It is now the untap step.
ahg113 untaps his permanents.
[22:18:19] It is now the draw step.
ahg113 draws 1 card(s).
[22:18:20] It is now the first main phase.
ahg113 puts Bloodstained Mire into play from his hand.
[22:18:22] It is now the beginning of combat step.
[22:18:22] It is now the declare attackers step.
ahg113 taps Phyrexian Revoker.
Ponders sets counter life to 20 (-1).
Ponders sets counter life to 19 (-1).
[22:18:22] It is now the end of combat step.
[22:18:22] It is now the second main phase.
ahg113 puts Bloodstained Mire from play into his graveyard.
ahg113 sets counter life to 18 (-1).
ahg113 is looking at his library.
ahg113 stops looking at his library.
ahg113 shuffles his library.
[22:18:24]  ahg113: resolve?
[22:18:24]  Ponders: ko
ahg113 is looking at his library.
ahg113 puts Swamp into play from library.
ahg113 stops looking at his library.
ahg113 shuffles his library.
ahg113 taps Swamp.
ahg113 taps Plains.
ahg113 taps Swamp.
ahg113 plays Monastery Mentor from his hand.
[22:18:27]  Ponders: k
ahg113 puts Monastery Mentor into play from the stack.
[22:18:28] It is now the ending phase.

[22:18:28] It is now Ponders's turn.

[22:18:28] It is now the untap step.
Ponders untaps his permanents.
Ponders draws 1 card(s).
Ponders puts Vesuva into play from his hand.
Ponders taps Vesuva.
Ponders sets counter life to 20 (+1).
Ponders sets counter life to 21 (+1).
[22:18:29] It is now the ending phase.

[22:18:29] It is now ahg113's turn.

[22:18:30] It is now the untap step.
ahg113 untaps his permanents.
[22:18:30] It is now the draw step.
ahg113 draws 1 card(s).
[22:18:30] It is now the first main phase.
ahg113 puts Badlands into play from his hand.
ahg113 taps Badlands.
ahg113 plays Lightning Bolt from his hand.
ahg113 places 1 green counter(s) on Monastery Mentor (now 1).
Ponders plays Misdirection from his hand.
Ponders exiles Trickbind from his hand.
Ponders points from his Misdirection to ahg113's Lightning Bolt.
Ponders points from ahg113's Lightning Bolt to ahg113's Monastery Mentor.
ahg113 taps Swamp.
ahg113 taps Plains.
ahg113 plays Zealous Persecution from his hand.
Ponders has conceded the game.
[22:18:36]  Ponders: w/e
Ponders has left the game.

Zealous Persecution is so OP, just wins games outright.

[Fry]

Just amusing because

Ponders has joined the game.
Ponders has loaded a deck with 15 sideboard cards (8l5uam4e).
Ponders is ready to start the game.

ahg113 plays Lightning Bolt from his hand.
ahg113 places 1 green counter(s) on Monastery Mentor (now 1).
Ponders plays Misdirection from his hand.
Ponders exiles Trickbind from his hand.
Ponders points from his Misdirection to ahg113's Lightning Bolt.
Ponders points from ahg113's Lightning Bolt to ahg113's Monastery Mentor.
ahg113 taps Swamp.
ahg113 taps Plains.
ahg113 plays Zealous Persecution from his hand.
Ponders has conceded the game.
[22:18:36]  Ponders: w/e
Ponders has left the game.

Zealous Persecution is so OP, just wins games outright.

Love how it's Ponders who leaves in a rage...

[KobeBryan]

bracer028 points from their Swan Song to Cid's Sigil of the Empty Throne.
bracer028 exiles Swan Song from the stack.
[16:58:35]  Cid: swang song
indeed?
[16:58:40]  bracer028: hell yea
Cid exiles Sigil of the Empty Throne from the stack.
[16:58:45]  Cid: ok
c u noob

[whocansay]

[22:53:38]  khomatech: respond to first sac
hold your horses
since when is this a tier deck by the way
sac your artifact
[22:53:55]  ar123: its tier 1.5 lol
[22:54:01]  khomatech: according to who?
[22:54:11]  ar123: the creture heavy meta?
[22:54:14]  khomatech: what?
[22:54:36]  ar123: this ddeck shits on every tier and 2 list
[22:54:44]  khomatech: i dont think you know what tiers mean
[22:54:54]  ar123: sadly i do being a sponserd player


khomatech: im sorry, which tier deck is this by the way?
cause im not sure
[23:04:47]  Noxae: ub control
with fatal push
[23:04:55]  khomatech: where is that considered a tier deck
[23:05:10]  Noxae: in my country it is

[Dice_Box]

So I am trying to work out what this thread is for. Seems to me it's mostly for advertising, troubleshooting and networking on the Cockatirce program. Seems someone decided to use it as his own personal pulpit from which to wave his dick around. New rule, if you want to masterbate over your own greatness, win a fucking GP. If you want to just look really good in front of your mates, I suggest Facebook. If you want to network, help others with issues on this program or occasionally share something funny feel free to use this thread.

Dice.

[thefreakaccident]

Does Cockatrice require gamepacks?


Also, is this the proper link for cockatrice currently?

I've been away from the game for a while... Didn't know there was an unbanned version of cockatrice available.

[Dice_Box]

https://cockatrice.github.io

Just responded in the other thread. That should be what you need. Will update op.

[thefreakaccident]

The program can't start because MSVCP120.dll is missing from your computer :/

[Dice_Box]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/missing-msvcp120dll-file/f0a14d55-73f0-4a21-879e-1cbacf05e906?auth=1

[thefreakaccident]

Ok... I got the program up and running... Now does anybody have all the info for an active server?

I'm apparently not doing it right :/

[Dice_Box]

https://github.com/Cockatrice/Cockatrice/wiki/Public-Servers

Wooger is the one I use.

[thefreakaccident]

Ok, I was already looking at them... I sent them a message through their 'contact us' section... Is there another, more streamlined, way to register?

[Dice_Box]

No idea. This is new to me.

[iOWN]

- Playing vs. Elves, I have a Chalice for 1 on the board
- He has a Nettle Sentinel in play, plays another one from hand, and says "ok?"
- I say "ok" thinking he just wants to untap the one in play
- He proceeds to put it into play
- I say "no, it gets countered"
- "no u forgot the trigger"
- "No, it's a mandatory trigger and I didn't forget"

Forgot to save the log and he kicked me right afterwards, but wow, the level of grime in a casual online game is unreal. I couldn't tell if he was trolling or actually thinks that would work in tournament... :confused:

[ahg113]

Just to have for prosperity. I don't mind being called sloppy if deserved, and math, especially simple addition, is hard. But a cheat, that I am not.

[01:27:44] ahg113 puts Faithless Looting from the stack into their graveyard.
[01:27:52] ahg113 sets counter r to 1 (-1).
[01:27:52] ahg113 sets counter r to 0 (-1).
[01:27:55] ahg113 plays Seething Song from their hand.
[01:27:56] ahg113 sets counter storm to 6 (+1).
[01:27:59] ahg113 sets counter r to 1 (+1).
[01:27:59] ahg113 sets counter r to 2 (+1).
[01:27:59] ahg113 sets counter r to 3 (+1).
[01:27:59] ahg113 sets counter r to 4 (+1).
[01:28:00] ahg113 sets counter r to 5 (+1).
[01:28:02]  mindlessrobottim: yep
[01:28:02] ahg113 puts Seething Song from the stack into their graveyard.
[01:28:05] ahg113 sets counter r to 4 (-1).
[01:28:05] ahg113 sets counter r to 3 (-1).
[01:28:08] ahg113 plays Bonus Round from their hand.
[01:28:09] ahg113 sets counter storm to 7 (+1).
[01:28:38]  mindlessrobottim: ok
[01:28:38] ahg113 puts Bonus Round from the stack into their graveyard.
[01:28:38] ahg113 plays Lion's Eye Diamond from their hand.
[01:28:40]  mindlessrobottim: k
[01:28:43] ahg113 puts Lion's Eye Diamond into play from the stack.
[01:28:44] ahg113 sets counter storm to 8 (+1).
[01:28:48] ahg113 sets counter r to 2 (-1).
[01:28:49] ahg113 sets counter r to 1 (-1).
[01:28:50] ahg113 plays Seething Song from their hand.
[01:28:51]  mindlessrobottim: k
[01:28:52] ahg113 sets counter storm to 9 (+1).
[01:28:54] ahg113 sets counter r to 2 (+1).
[01:28:54] ahg113 sets counter r to 3 (+1).
[01:28:54] ahg113 sets counter r to 4 (+1).
[01:28:54] ahg113 sets counter r to 5 (+1).
[01:28:54] ahg113 sets counter r to 6 (+1).
[01:28:55] ahg113 sets counter r to 7 (+1).
[01:28:55] ahg113 sets counter r to 8 (+1).
[01:28:55] ahg113 sets counter r to 9 (+1).
[01:28:55] ahg113 sets counter r to 10 (+1).
[01:28:56] ahg113 sets counter r to 11 (+1).
[01:29:07] ahg113 puts Seething Song from the stack into their graveyard.
[01:29:07]  mindlessrobottim: waiot
[01:29:07] ahg113 taps Lion's Eye Diamond.
[01:29:07]  mindlessrobottim: where'd the mana come from to cast it
you only had one floating right
and medalion makes 2
where 3 come from
[01:29:31]  ahg113: i had 5 in pool
[01:29:34]  mindlessrobottim: ...
you added 10
[01:29:38]  ahg113: cast bonus round for 2
[01:29:43]  mindlessrobottim: so 11-10 =1
[01:29:54]  ahg113: had three remaining
[01:29:56]  mindlessrobottim: a
na
i was watching you
cheating me on teh last seething song
your current mana
gives you away
[01:30:20] mindlessrobottim has left the game (player left the game).

And then, because I wouldn't be satisfied without vindication-


[01:31:14]  ahg113: i'm reading through the script, i don't think i cheated, i'll concede the game if i did though
but with a song out, two for bonus round, two for seething song
[01:31:27]  mindlessrobottim: i know you didn't intentionally
[01:31:28]  ahg113: 1 left in pool
plus 10 mana equals 11
i had two seething songs, one pre bonus round, the second post bonus round
[01:32:09]  mindlessrobottim: yes, and the 2nd one you had 1 mana floating and cast it
presumably with that one mana
and ruby medalion
[01:32:20]  ahg113: no, the one mana was what was left after casting it
[01:32:36]  mindlessrobottim: ok i apologize
i didn
't mean to give you a bad tiem
have better games
[01:33:04]  ahg113: 5 from song in pool, -2 for bonus round (ruby aid), 3 left in pool, -2 from seething song (ruby aid), 1 left in pool, seething song resolves, 11 in pool
no worries, take care
i'd rather be sloppy than cheating is all
[01:34:09]  mindlessrobottim: probably not even sloppy. just a bit too quick and i got confused
not a deck i see every day



So every once in a while, anonymous people on the internet can not agree, then agree, and maintain decorum the whole time.

[thefreakaccident]

So, there's a cEDH tournament (The Marchesa 2020 cEDH Tournament) being held on cockatrice March 28th at 1pm (EST). The tournament will not be sanctioned. However, it is free to enter, and will have prize payouts to the top 4. First place will receive 100$. Registration deadline is March 27th, 6pm (EST).

For any further details please PM me.

Here is a link to the tournament discord for registration:

https://discord.gg/yRQ4qyy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683131637055488005/683505198420721697/Marchesa2020.jpg

Deck submissions and questions via cockatrice (or the tournament discord) are to be relayed to: isleep2late.