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    [Deck] Goblin Champions

    A digression from the Food Chain/Evoke abuse thread. This is really more of an attempt to abuse the goblin tribal and champion mechanics...

    4x Goblin Lackey
    4x Goblin Matron
    4x Goblin Ringleader
    2x Kiki-Jiki Mirror Breaker
    2x Goblin Pyromancer

    4x Changeling Titan
    4x Boggart Mob

    4x Enlightened Tutor
    4x Food Chain
    4x Trinisphere
    4x Thorn of Amethyst

    4x Chrome Mox
    4x Ancient Tomb
    2x City of Traitors
    4x City of Brass
    4x Gemstone Mine

    Sideboard:
    4x Krosan Grip
    4x Duress
    4x Chalice of the Void
    3x Lotus Petal

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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    Whats up with the lotus petal in the sb? And only 14 lands? Seems like you could get in a lot of trouble against wastelands.

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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    so, your main goal is to swarm the opponent or what? Please explain yourself! If so, I would agree that the pyromancer's pretty damn good. However, this deck needs some ways to create even more gobbos. Mogg War Marshal, Goblin Marshal, Siege-Gang Commander etc. Also, wouldn't changeling berserker fit better into your deck?

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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by willoe View Post
    so, your main goal is to swarm the opponent or what? Please explain yourself! If so, I would agree that the pyromancer's pretty damn good. However, this deck needs some ways to create even more gobbos. Mogg War Marshal, Goblin Marshal, Siege-Gang Commander etc. Also, wouldn't changeling berserker fit better into your deck?
    Obviously still a work in progress.

    There's a bit of bootstrapping, but idea is to combo out by having Kiki-Jiki copy Goblin Matron, which tutors for a Champion that is used to reset Kiki-Jiki, then repeating the process to produce a bunch of Goblin Matron tokens, and then top it off with the Pyromancer.

    The backup idea is trinisphere/aggro.

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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Wes View Post
    Whats up with the lotus petal in the sb? And only 14 lands? Seems like you could get in a lot of trouble against wastelands.
    You're right, dual/fetch may be a better idea, especially since the deck is primarily red, and does want to page through itself. There are also, almost certainly, better SB choices.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Lotus petal should defenately be in Maindeck because you are using 3 different colors, GRW, you could come in mana problems

    and yes duals and fetch are better

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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Obviously still a work in progress.

    There's a bit of bootstrapping, but idea is to combo out by having Kiki-Jiki copy Goblin Matron, which tutors for a Champion that is used to reset Kiki-Jiki, then repeating the process to produce a bunch of Goblin Matron tokens, and then top it off with the Pyromancer.

    The backup idea is trinisphere/aggro.
    But you can only pull out the Champion four times right? (And "reset" Kiki for 4 more times) Or did you not explain something else about the combo?

    I think I am probably missing something here though...

    Also, I see a lack of Warchief and Piledriver. A goblin deck without those is definally wrong, right?

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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    Warchief seems like some-good towards mana production, plus it lets you switch to regular goblin card advantage if you need to.

    As for the combo, you have 8 champions to tutor for. Also, Champion in play + kiki seems like an infinite mana loop. Kiki copies champion, then sac champion token for 1 mana of any color, kiki returns untapped, repeat as necessary. This then lets you combo out however you want to.
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    Re: [deck]Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by Zork View Post
    Warchief seems like some-good towards mana production, plus it lets you switch to regular goblin card advantage if you need to.

    As for the combo, you have 8 champions to tutor for. Also, Champion in play + kiki seems like an infinite mana loop. Kiki copies champion, then sac champion token for 1 mana of any color, kiki returns untapped, repeat as necessary. This then lets you combo out however you want to.
    The combo actually already has issues because it produces too much mana. Also, I thought that mana cost was copied.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Wouldn't Goblin Sharpshooter be good here? If not maybe Demonfire or Kaervek's Torch. I also think that there is a really expensive goblin that's an X-spell on a stick. This would be perfect here.

    EDIT: Goblin Dynamo is the X-Spell on a stick. I think this card might be the perfect kill condition for the deck since it's searchable and can make use of infinite mana. What do you guys think? an auto-include?

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavius The Great View Post
    Wouldn't Goblin Sharpshooter be good here? If not maybe Demonfire or Kaervek's Torch. I also think that there is a really expensive goblin that's an X-spell on a stick. This would be perfect here.

    EDIT: Goblin Dynamo is the X-Spell on a stick. I think this card might be the perfect kill condition for the deck since it's searchable and can make use of infinite mana. What do you guys think? an auto-include?
    I favor Cavius' thought of running Sharpshooter. My question is WTF is the Food Chain for. I didn't see any x spells. Ditch the green idea and put more Black in for additonals Goblins. Also I do not think running Trinisphere and Thorn is needed. Where is you basic mana (gg against back to Basics and Wasteland)
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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Uhm food chain makes to much mana and you can only use it to play creatures, so you can't use it for demonfire or goblin dynamo. Or do I misunderstand this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer001 View Post
    Uhm food chain makes to much mana and you can only use it to play creatures, so you can't use it for demonfire or goblin dynamo. Or do I misunderstand this ?
    No, that's right. I think the deck wants 1 Panglacial Wurm to act as a mana sink.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Why not just run 4 maga, traitor to mortals? Or just a couple and two Worldly Tutors.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavius The Great View Post
    Why not just run 4 maga, traitor to mortals? Or just a couple and two Worldly Tutors.
    Because the card engine is goblin oriented.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Because the card engine is goblin oriented.
    Then just run Goblin Sharpshooter and Seige Gang and sac all of the tokens for 20+ damage to your opponent's dome.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer001 View Post
    Uhm food chain makes to much mana and you can only use it to play creatures, so you can't use it for demonfire or goblin dynamo. Or do I misunderstand this ?
    I can't figure out why Food Chain is in the deck. The deck should already be fast enough.
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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavius The Great View Post
    Then just run Goblin Sharpshooter and Seige Gang and sac all of the tokens for 20+ damage to your opponent's dome.
    Food Chain doesn't let you play creature abilities. You'd need Skirk Prospector or something similar to let you untap the sharpshooter.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Quote Originally Posted by 94teen View Post
    Food Chain doesn't let you play creature abilities. You'd need Skirk Prospector or something similar to let you untap the sharpshooter.
    sharpshooter doesn't require mana to activate. It would work perfectly fine in the deck.

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    Re: [Deck] Goblin Champions

    Oo, I really love changeling berzerker, atleast as a 1 of. You also only need 1 Changeling Titan, just add a Wort instead of one other, a berzerker instead of another, and maybe something good like Tarmogoyf.
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